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		<title>By: Dariusz Rohnka</title>
		<link>http://wydawnictwopodziemne.com/en/2009/11/08/trojkatna-konstelacja/comment-page-1/#comment-5939</link>
		<dc:creator>Dariusz Rohnka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Szanowny Panie,

Żal istotnie wielki, że nie chce się Panu wysilać na „głębszy komentarz”, tym bardziej, że to co mieliśmy przyjemność przeczytać powyżej nie wydaje się komentarzem choćby nawet tylko „płytkim”, a jedynie stekiem insynuacji, głupstw i obelżywości pod adresem Jeffreya Nyquista. Jeśli ma Pan istotnie jakieś poglądy, a wierzę że tak właśnie jest, zapraszam do śmielszej i nieco bardziej zrozumiałej ich artykulacji.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Szanowny Panie,</p>
<p>Żal istotnie wielki, że nie chce się Panu wysilać na „głębszy komentarz”, tym bardziej, że to co mieliśmy przyjemność przeczytać powyżej nie wydaje się komentarzem choćby nawet tylko „płytkim”, a jedynie stekiem insynuacji, głupstw i obelżywości pod adresem Jeffreya Nyquista. Jeśli ma Pan istotnie jakieś poglądy, a wierzę że tak właśnie jest, zapraszam do śmielszej i nieco bardziej zrozumiałej ich artykulacji.</p>
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		<title>By: ernest</title>
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		<dc:creator>ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawno nie czytałem większych bzdur. Nyquist to jakiś facet totalnie oderwany od rzeczywistości, zwłaszcza ekonomicznej. Wydaje się jednak, że jest nie pożytecznym idiotą, a raczej kretem, celowo odwracającym uwagę od rzeczywistej gry. Rozważanie Obamy jako choćby w części niezależnego polityka wywołuje uśmiech politowania. By już nie wspomnieć cytatów: &quot;Ostatecznie demokracja i wymogi normalnego życia zwyciężą, a to właśnie reprezentuje Ameryka w dzisiejszym świecie. Amerykanom wydawało się dotąd, że zdrowy rozsądek ludzkości wystarczy, by rozpoznać wyższość gospodarki wolnorynkowej i wolnych wyborów.&quot; albo: &quot;Ataki odwracające uwagę już miały miejsce, „11 września” był prawdopodobnie jednym z nich&quot;....  Facet chyba nie jest aż takim kretynem?  Musi więc być manipulatorem. Naiwne klepanie o dzisiejszej &quot;amerykańskiej prawdziwej demokracji&quot; przegrywającej z radziecko-chińskim spiskiem, pomijanie roli wielkiej finansjery w polityce światowej, czy ignorowanie oczywistych faktów ukazujących istotę wydarzeń 9/11 ? To aż aż krzyczy o komentarz. Na głębszy komentarz mnie osobiście żal się wysilać, bo ten żałosny wywiad nie jest nawet wart przeczytania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawno nie czytałem większych bzdur. Nyquist to jakiś facet totalnie oderwany od rzeczywistości, zwłaszcza ekonomicznej. Wydaje się jednak, że jest nie pożytecznym idiotą, a raczej kretem, celowo odwracającym uwagę od rzeczywistej gry. Rozważanie Obamy jako choćby w części niezależnego polityka wywołuje uśmiech politowania. By już nie wspomnieć cytatów: &#8220;Ostatecznie demokracja i wymogi normalnego życia zwyciężą, a to właśnie reprezentuje Ameryka w dzisiejszym świecie. Amerykanom wydawało się dotąd, że zdrowy rozsądek ludzkości wystarczy, by rozpoznać wyższość gospodarki wolnorynkowej i wolnych wyborów.&#8221; albo: &#8220;Ataki odwracające uwagę już miały miejsce, „11 września” był prawdopodobnie jednym z nich&#8221;&#8230;.  Facet chyba nie jest aż takim kretynem?  Musi więc być manipulatorem. Naiwne klepanie o dzisiejszej &#8220;amerykańskiej prawdziwej demokracji&#8221; przegrywającej z radziecko-chińskim spiskiem, pomijanie roli wielkiej finansjery w polityce światowej, czy ignorowanie oczywistych faktów ukazujących istotę wydarzeń 9/11 ? To aż aż krzyczy o komentarz. Na głębszy komentarz mnie osobiście żal się wysilać, bo ten żałosny wywiad nie jest nawet wart przeczytania.</p>
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		<title>By: michał</title>
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		<dc:creator>michał</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I do not offer better sources and I stick by my criticism of wikipedia and other net based sources based on the same open architecture.  To use them without engaging the critical part of the brain is madness but having just written this I immediately thought: there&#039;s nothing new under the sun: no source could ever be accepted without critical analysis.  Internet has not changed much here.  In every intellectual pursuit we must analyse and compare and these are the only two tools we have.  

I am not a proselyte, nor am I a propagandist, and am not concerned with dissemination of information about Antoni Macierewicz or the Kaczyńskis. Politicians can only be assessed on the basis of what they say and what they do.  In my eyes, these three belong to the continuation of the &quot;polish people&#039;s republic&quot; in varying degrees. If I speak at all, it is only in the interest of truth, even if I am very much aware that the truth has no interests and is perfectly indifferent to our struggles.  I’m glad that I&#039;ve made you worried though, because there’s nothing better than intellectual discomfort when we search for truth.

And now to the subject matter.  That Yushchenko is a member of the demokratura seems beyond debate.  Nevertheless, you suggest that this is not a relevant assessment but instead we ought to look at the fact that he is in conflict with kgb.  But hang on!  Trotsky was in conflict with gpu too and it didn’t exactly make him an anticommunist.  Slansky and Rajk were executed, Gomułka arrested, Rokossovsky tortured – were they all somehow “on our side”?  The “list of major enemies of communism” unfortunately usually consisted of communists and being part of that list does not make one an ally of mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I do not offer better sources and I stick by my criticism of wikipedia and other net based sources based on the same open architecture.  To use them without engaging the critical part of the brain is madness but having just written this I immediately thought: there&#8217;s nothing new under the sun: no source could ever be accepted without critical analysis.  Internet has not changed much here.  In every intellectual pursuit we must analyse and compare and these are the only two tools we have.  </p>
<p>I am not a proselyte, nor am I a propagandist, and am not concerned with dissemination of information about Antoni Macierewicz or the Kaczyńskis. Politicians can only be assessed on the basis of what they say and what they do.  In my eyes, these three belong to the continuation of the &#8220;polish people&#8217;s republic&#8221; in varying degrees. If I speak at all, it is only in the interest of truth, even if I am very much aware that the truth has no interests and is perfectly indifferent to our struggles.  I’m glad that I&#8217;ve made you worried though, because there’s nothing better than intellectual discomfort when we search for truth.</p>
<p>And now to the subject matter.  That Yushchenko is a member of the demokratura seems beyond debate.  Nevertheless, you suggest that this is not a relevant assessment but instead we ought to look at the fact that he is in conflict with kgb.  But hang on!  Trotsky was in conflict with gpu too and it didn’t exactly make him an anticommunist.  Slansky and Rajk were executed, Gomułka arrested, Rokossovsky tortured – were they all somehow “on our side”?  The “list of major enemies of communism” unfortunately usually consisted of communists and being part of that list does not make one an ally of mine.</p>
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		<title>By: michał</title>
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		<dc:creator>michał</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me.  I would have given you the link but I was unaware that you can read Polish.

I will come back on other points in a moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me.  I would have given you the link but I was unaware that you can read Polish.</p>
<p>I will come back on other points in a moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Serge Kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serge Kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i found the letter here
http://wydawnictwopodziemne.com/2008/02/10/list-otwarty-do-antoniego-macierewicza/

will read and comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i found the letter here<br />
<a href="http://wydawnictwopodziemne.com/en/2008/02/10/list-otwarty-do-antoniego-macierewicza/" rel="nofollow">http://wydawnictwopodziemne.com/en/2008/02/10/list-otwarty-do-antoniego-macierewicza/</a></p>
<p>will read and comment</p>
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		<title>By: Serge Kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serge Kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On wiki: so you criticize it as a tool, but do not offer better sources.

Please do provide if you can so we   learn about Kaczyńskis and Macierewicz.
You obviously have things to say, so we are listening.

I am not sure why do we have to care about other people ambitions but not the solid achievements: this is tricky and not clear. Very unclear: it bothers me.

On Yushchenko: he is much less nomenklatura then my family was or many of my friends. So it it virtually indistinguishable.

We know a lot about him and his family. Including details of the assassination attempts on him. 

Concept of nomenclatura is a good one but very outdated. 

Today they operate underground, using multiple tricks like fake death of the important operatives like Dudaev or the recent one: 
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/russia/TKDVTCJF01CRVH6JK

We would like to see the open letter to Macierewicz, is it possible please, because i have no idea what do you mean.

Yushenko is not in a conflict with just kgb, he is in conflict with global communism, with moscow to put it short. It is much worse. He is on the list of major enemies for them.

The final point makes me worried. Logically it means that researchers  have to seize ANY publications or communications. This is exactly what enemy wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On wiki: so you criticize it as a tool, but do not offer better sources.</p>
<p>Please do provide if you can so we   learn about Kaczyńskis and Macierewicz.<br />
You obviously have things to say, so we are listening.</p>
<p>I am not sure why do we have to care about other people ambitions but not the solid achievements: this is tricky and not clear. Very unclear: it bothers me.</p>
<p>On Yushchenko: he is much less nomenklatura then my family was or many of my friends. So it it virtually indistinguishable.</p>
<p>We know a lot about him and his family. Including details of the assassination attempts on him. </p>
<p>Concept of nomenclatura is a good one but very outdated. </p>
<p>Today they operate underground, using multiple tricks like fake death of the important operatives like Dudaev or the recent one:<br />
<a href="http://www.topix.com/forum/world/russia/TKDVTCJF01CRVH6JK" rel="nofollow">http://www.topix.com/forum/world/russia/TKDVTCJF01CRVH6JK</a></p>
<p>We would like to see the open letter to Macierewicz, is it possible please, because i have no idea what do you mean.</p>
<p>Yushenko is not in a conflict with just kgb, he is in conflict with global communism, with moscow to put it short. It is much worse. He is on the list of major enemies for them.</p>
<p>The final point makes me worried. Logically it means that researchers  have to seize ANY publications or communications. This is exactly what enemy wants.</p>
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		<title>By: michał</title>
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		<dc:creator>michał</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear, oh dear,

No.  In the nicest possible way, wikipedia is NOT &quot;just a tool&quot; exactly because anyone &quot;may add to the wiki article on Mr Macierewicz what he considers to be important&quot;.  This is a charter for cheats.  This is a charter for agit-prop.

The Kaczyńskis ought not to be assessed by their achievements, which are meagre, but by the scope of their ambition, which was even more limited.  Macierewicz is a more complicated case, hence our letter to him.

Yushchenko is indeed a good example and I will return to him separately.  In this instance, let me just shyly point out that I think the brilliantly accurate name of &quot;demokratura&quot; originates in the Ukraine.  It describes the elite of power, which used to be known in the soviet times as nomenklatura, and which still presides over allegedly &quot;democratic&quot; phase.  Yushchenko is clearly a member of that group, regardless of his run in with kgb.

You obviously MAY suggest that we all underestimate our enemies but I hardly think it applies to the authors on this website.  If anything we were accused many times of overestimating the soviets.

And as a final point: please do not &quot;put together collective brains&quot;.  Intelligence is always individual and collectives have no brains at all.  That is why they so easily fall pray to the manipulation whether by the commies or anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear, oh dear,</p>
<p>No.  In the nicest possible way, wikipedia is NOT &#8220;just a tool&#8221; exactly because anyone &#8220;may add to the wiki article on Mr Macierewicz what he considers to be important&#8221;.  This is a charter for cheats.  This is a charter for agit-prop.</p>
<p>The Kaczyńskis ought not to be assessed by their achievements, which are meagre, but by the scope of their ambition, which was even more limited.  Macierewicz is a more complicated case, hence our letter to him.</p>
<p>Yushchenko is indeed a good example and I will return to him separately.  In this instance, let me just shyly point out that I think the brilliantly accurate name of &#8220;demokratura&#8221; originates in the Ukraine.  It describes the elite of power, which used to be known in the soviet times as nomenklatura, and which still presides over allegedly &#8220;democratic&#8221; phase.  Yushchenko is clearly a member of that group, regardless of his run in with kgb.</p>
<p>You obviously MAY suggest that we all underestimate our enemies but I hardly think it applies to the authors on this website.  If anything we were accused many times of overestimating the soviets.</p>
<p>And as a final point: please do not &#8220;put together collective brains&#8221;.  Intelligence is always individual and collectives have no brains at all.  That is why they so easily fall pray to the manipulation whether by the commies or anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Serge Kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serge Kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Michal, but of course. 

well, wikipidea is just a tool, a collection of quotes and links. You may add to the wiki article on Mr Macierewicz yourself what you consider to be important and that would be really important in our struggle. On Walesa on the other hand history will add a pile of excrement : he will be damned  and his  name will be a synonym to `dirt`.

i have to agree that Kaczyński brothers and Antoni Macierewicz achievements are relatively limited. It is quite obvious. yesterday I talked to my friend in Polnad.
he summarize it all like this:  &quot;Kaczyński brothers and Antoni Macierewicz tried but failed and kgb dominates. Nothing can be done&quot;

I dont buy it. because I know a little bit about political game and realize how complicated and dangerous it is, so I learned appreciate the little good things.

Here is some episode from the past

My another friend in Poland was arrested in Moscow in 1986, where he was lured from Ukraine by some ` friends` that he did not realize who they were.

The game was: kgb wanted him to be an informer on me and my friends. They could not do it in Ukraine because the interest that enemy had to us was so sensitive that they did not want ukrainian kgb to know  about it. My friend told the enemy to `fuck off` even though he knew it will mean years in jail. he got 6 years. 

I left Ukraine in 1988, he was still in jail. I had no idea what actually happened, that he was taken to Lubyanka not just arrested on a drug charge as it was officially said. I did not know that he refused to become an informer. 

By the way i never was even close to the level comparable to  Kaczyński brothers and Antoni Macierewicz. I only learned the truth in 2006 when he came to USA and told me. He himself has no idea why it happened. He only knew that I and my friends did not like soviet regime , thats all. 

Another good example is Ukrainian President Yushchenko : kgb  almost got him dead. His survival was a miracle almost. Thats the game we are in . It is rather bloody and complicated. 

May I suggest that we all underestimate the strength of the enemy, their ability to plan and methods they apply.

Ukrainians are very unhappy with Yushchenko. They dreamed that he will make them live in Paradise. But it is almost impossible to confront kremlin and all that.

For someone like Yushchenko  : it may be a very tough choice to even contact people like us because that will put us in danger. Enemy may try to kill us. Because they know what we want and what kind of alliance it can be if the president starts to listen to us or something like that. 

May be that is a reason why   Macierewicz never answered you. may be not. I dont know. 

Who knows, there is this theory that Yushchenko was not just poisoned but given friendship drugs or some other psychotropic substances. Or threatened in some other way.

At this point we came to the conclusion that now it is time to do some homework, to put together our collective brain and try to understand what is going on, and educate others. We were too naive not long ago. We had no idea what kind of a game it is.

Now we only start to realize it. Looks like it is very much involving things like weapons of mass destruction. I was not realizing it not that long ago.

But we have no doubt that we will prevail and destroy our enemies.
Poland will be free.
Ukraine will be free.
USA will remain a free country, but we will have to work very hard on it. 

As far as been involved at official level as Kaczyński brothers and Antoni Macierewicz are: 

would it be better if they would just leave the game, and do nothing? Are you sure?

They published Golitsyn, that fact alone inspired us. Ideas have power. powerful ideas have strategic impact. May be it is worth playing the game after all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Michal, but of course. </p>
<p>well, wikipidea is just a tool, a collection of quotes and links. You may add to the wiki article on Mr Macierewicz yourself what you consider to be important and that would be really important in our struggle. On Walesa on the other hand history will add a pile of excrement : he will be damned  and his  name will be a synonym to `dirt`.</p>
<p>i have to agree that Kaczyński brothers and Antoni Macierewicz achievements are relatively limited. It is quite obvious. yesterday I talked to my friend in Polnad.<br />
he summarize it all like this:  &#8220;Kaczyński brothers and Antoni Macierewicz tried but failed and kgb dominates. Nothing can be done&#8221;</p>
<p>I dont buy it. because I know a little bit about political game and realize how complicated and dangerous it is, so I learned appreciate the little good things.</p>
<p>Here is some episode from the past</p>
<p>My another friend in Poland was arrested in Moscow in 1986, where he was lured from Ukraine by some ` friends` that he did not realize who they were.</p>
<p>The game was: kgb wanted him to be an informer on me and my friends. They could not do it in Ukraine because the interest that enemy had to us was so sensitive that they did not want ukrainian kgb to know  about it. My friend told the enemy to `fuck off` even though he knew it will mean years in jail. he got 6 years. </p>
<p>I left Ukraine in 1988, he was still in jail. I had no idea what actually happened, that he was taken to Lubyanka not just arrested on a drug charge as it was officially said. I did not know that he refused to become an informer. </p>
<p>By the way i never was even close to the level comparable to  Kaczyński brothers and Antoni Macierewicz. I only learned the truth in 2006 when he came to USA and told me. He himself has no idea why it happened. He only knew that I and my friends did not like soviet regime , thats all. </p>
<p>Another good example is Ukrainian President Yushchenko : kgb  almost got him dead. His survival was a miracle almost. Thats the game we are in . It is rather bloody and complicated. </p>
<p>May I suggest that we all underestimate the strength of the enemy, their ability to plan and methods they apply.</p>
<p>Ukrainians are very unhappy with Yushchenko. They dreamed that he will make them live in Paradise. But it is almost impossible to confront kremlin and all that.</p>
<p>For someone like Yushchenko  : it may be a very tough choice to even contact people like us because that will put us in danger. Enemy may try to kill us. Because they know what we want and what kind of alliance it can be if the president starts to listen to us or something like that. </p>
<p>May be that is a reason why   Macierewicz never answered you. may be not. I dont know. </p>
<p>Who knows, there is this theory that Yushchenko was not just poisoned but given friendship drugs or some other psychotropic substances. Or threatened in some other way.</p>
<p>At this point we came to the conclusion that now it is time to do some homework, to put together our collective brain and try to understand what is going on, and educate others. We were too naive not long ago. We had no idea what kind of a game it is.</p>
<p>Now we only start to realize it. Looks like it is very much involving things like weapons of mass destruction. I was not realizing it not that long ago.</p>
<p>But we have no doubt that we will prevail and destroy our enemies.<br />
Poland will be free.<br />
Ukraine will be free.<br />
USA will remain a free country, but we will have to work very hard on it. </p>
<p>As far as been involved at official level as Kaczyński brothers and Antoni Macierewicz are: </p>
<p>would it be better if they would just leave the game, and do nothing? Are you sure?</p>
<p>They published Golitsyn, that fact alone inspired us. Ideas have power. powerful ideas have strategic impact. May be it is worth playing the game after all?</p>
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		<title>By: michał</title>
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		<dc:creator>michał</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Kabud,

Thirst to knowledge is always welcome but I would tentatively warn you against relying too much on sources such as wikipedia.  It&#039;s mostly harmless nonsense but all too often dangerous disinformation.  Having said that, I would not have much good to say about Mr Sikorski but this is exactly how disinformation works: it plants vital pieces of falsehood in a demonstrably truthful picture.

In that context, it makes sense to look more closely at the alleged achievements of the Kaczyński brothers and Antoni Macierewicz.

In my view, they have presided over further muddying of the waters, as if the water surrounding Polish independence was not murky enough.  I regard Mr Macierewicz as an honest man.  He was against the so called ‘round table talks in 1989 and then in 1991 he tried in vain to expose high number of communist agents in high places in allegedly “reborn Poland”.  The government in which he served as minister of the interior was toppled in a parliamentary coup led by comrade Lech Wałęsa, who stood accused of being one of the agents in high places.

To an objective observer, this sequence of events would be enough to prove that Golitsyn was right: that commies have prepared for decades a false handover of power to their own agents and fellow travellers.  This in turn, proves that today’s Poland is no more than a continuation of “polish people’s republic” (forgive me, I don’t like to bestow the honour of capital letters on communist creations so I never write soviet or kgb with capitals).  But if it is, than how can one serve in its institutions?  How can one be a member of parliament, a minister, a president?  To my mind this is a contradiction.  We wrote an open letter to Mr Macierewicz asking him about these contradictions.  Not surprisingly we had no response.  

I must add that I still retain great respect for Mr Macierewicz I just cannot agree with the political choices he had made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Kabud,</p>
<p>Thirst to knowledge is always welcome but I would tentatively warn you against relying too much on sources such as wikipedia.  It&#8217;s mostly harmless nonsense but all too often dangerous disinformation.  Having said that, I would not have much good to say about Mr Sikorski but this is exactly how disinformation works: it plants vital pieces of falsehood in a demonstrably truthful picture.</p>
<p>In that context, it makes sense to look more closely at the alleged achievements of the Kaczyński brothers and Antoni Macierewicz.</p>
<p>In my view, they have presided over further muddying of the waters, as if the water surrounding Polish independence was not murky enough.  I regard Mr Macierewicz as an honest man.  He was against the so called ‘round table talks in 1989 and then in 1991 he tried in vain to expose high number of communist agents in high places in allegedly “reborn Poland”.  The government in which he served as minister of the interior was toppled in a parliamentary coup led by comrade Lech Wałęsa, who stood accused of being one of the agents in high places.</p>
<p>To an objective observer, this sequence of events would be enough to prove that Golitsyn was right: that commies have prepared for decades a false handover of power to their own agents and fellow travellers.  This in turn, proves that today’s Poland is no more than a continuation of “polish people’s republic” (forgive me, I don’t like to bestow the honour of capital letters on communist creations so I never write soviet or kgb with capitals).  But if it is, than how can one serve in its institutions?  How can one be a member of parliament, a minister, a president?  To my mind this is a contradiction.  We wrote an open letter to Mr Macierewicz asking him about these contradictions.  Not surprisingly we had no response.  </p>
<p>I must add that I still retain great respect for Mr Macierewicz I just cannot agree with the political choices he had made.</p>
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		<title>By: Serge Kabud</title>
		<link>http://wydawnictwopodziemne.com/en/2009/11/08/trojkatna-konstelacja/comment-page-1/#comment-5850</link>
		<dc:creator>Serge Kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Michal,  since Jeff is still writing his response i may try to answer in a mean time.

`We` are in a stage of gaining knowledge that `we` don&#039;t have yet,
~we~ as a global anticommunist movement so to speak.

Only 2 days ago we discovered that Golitsyn was translated in Poland with a help of a good man 
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoni_Macierewicz

so we were very happy and researched his biography and we found mere details on the fight that Poland puts up against KGB. Well you Michal probably know so much more about it and we hope you can teach us here.

This is what shocked us:

http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary_trying_redefine_poland
(if link will not work just google &quot;trying redefine poland&quot; and you will find it)

so then, learning that Radek Sikorski was opposing the clean up we went here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radosław_Sikorski

This `radek` charachter was `consulting` Ukrainians in the late 80s early 90s, the Rukh people who for the most part were KGB agents and traytors, mind that.

I believe that radek should be exposed in a very straight forward manner and it will serve Poland national interest(correct me if I am wrong)

Our good friends in Poland like people who read and post here, friends in Check Republic, Ukraine, Georgia-

we all are trying to learn better how enemy operates and what can be done.

And at this point we are planting seeds, we gather knowledge and disseminate it, we educate ourselves and our allies.

Lots of thing should be properly reconsidered and masks must be taken away from the brutal enemy faces.

The achievements of  people like Antoni_Macierewicz and Kaczyński brothers how limited they may look are fascinating for us in Ukraine and USA

You should understand that communism is advancing not only in Eastern Europe and EU 
but in USA as well. It is a very dangerous times we face now but it means that we got to fight back and act on the principle

learn yourself and your enemy and you will not be defeated in a million battles

God Bless Poland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Michal,  since Jeff is still writing his response i may try to answer in a mean time.</p>
<p>`We` are in a stage of gaining knowledge that `we` don&#8217;t have yet,<br />
~we~ as a global anticommunist movement so to speak.</p>
<p>Only 2 days ago we discovered that Golitsyn was translated in Poland with a help of a good man<br />
<a href="http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoni_Macierewicz" rel="nofollow">http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoni_Macierewicz</a></p>
<p>so we were very happy and researched his biography and we found mere details on the fight that Poland puts up against KGB. Well you Michal probably know so much more about it and we hope you can teach us here.</p>
<p>This is what shocked us:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary_trying_redefine_poland" rel="nofollow">http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary_trying_redefine_poland</a><br />
(if link will not work just google &#8220;trying redefine poland&#8221; and you will find it)</p>
<p>so then, learning that Radek Sikorski was opposing the clean up we went here<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radosław_Sikorski" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radosław_Sikorski</a></p>
<p>This `radek` charachter was `consulting` Ukrainians in the late 80s early 90s, the Rukh people who for the most part were KGB agents and traytors, mind that.</p>
<p>I believe that radek should be exposed in a very straight forward manner and it will serve Poland national interest(correct me if I am wrong)</p>
<p>Our good friends in Poland like people who read and post here, friends in Check Republic, Ukraine, Georgia-</p>
<p>we all are trying to learn better how enemy operates and what can be done.</p>
<p>And at this point we are planting seeds, we gather knowledge and disseminate it, we educate ourselves and our allies.</p>
<p>Lots of thing should be properly reconsidered and masks must be taken away from the brutal enemy faces.</p>
<p>The achievements of  people like Antoni_Macierewicz and Kaczyński brothers how limited they may look are fascinating for us in Ukraine and USA</p>
<p>You should understand that communism is advancing not only in Eastern Europe and EU<br />
but in USA as well. It is a very dangerous times we face now but it means that we got to fight back and act on the principle</p>
<p>learn yourself and your enemy and you will not be defeated in a million battles</p>
<p>God Bless Poland</p>
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		<title>By: michał</title>
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		<dc:creator>michał</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, friendship is one thing and truth is another, as a famous saying attributed (wrongly) to Aristotle states, so it&#039;s always dangerous to mix the two.   More to the point: how do you propose to clean &quot;this world&quot; from communism now before Kremlin destroys the world population in a series of genocidal wars?  I have to say, I&#039;ve been thinking about it for some time so I&#039;d welcome a &quot;true road sign&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, friendship is one thing and truth is another, as a famous saying attributed (wrongly) to Aristotle states, so it&#8217;s always dangerous to mix the two.   More to the point: how do you propose to clean &#8220;this world&#8221; from communism now before Kremlin destroys the world population in a series of genocidal wars?  I have to say, I&#8217;ve been thinking about it for some time so I&#8217;d welcome a &#8220;true road sign&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Serge Kabud</title>
		<link>http://wydawnictwopodziemne.com/en/2009/11/08/trojkatna-konstelacja/comment-page-1/#comment-5848</link>
		<dc:creator>Serge Kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Nyquist is in fact one of if not The leading thinkers of out time. 
I am lucky enough to be his friend and have the unique opportunity to learn from him

But the most important is : his work is a a true road sign where we have to go and what to do in order to clean this World from communism and state organized crime

and if we dont do it now: kremlin people in their union with chinese communists will definitely destroy most of the world population through a series of genocidal wars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Nyquist is in fact one of if not The leading thinkers of out time.<br />
I am lucky enough to be his friend and have the unique opportunity to learn from him</p>
<p>But the most important is : his work is a a true road sign where we have to go and what to do in order to clean this World from communism and state organized crime</p>
<p>and if we dont do it now: kremlin people in their union with chinese communists will definitely destroy most of the world population through a series of genocidal wars</p>
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		<title>By: lynnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>lynnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JRN is one of the clearest thinkers today. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JRN is one of the clearest thinkers today. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://wydawnictwopodziemne.com/en/2009/11/08/trojkatna-konstelacja/comment-page-1/#comment-5839</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably one of the most honest, and intelligent,(&quot;he who fails to learn from History,is doomed to repeat it&#039;s errors&quot;), analysis that I&#039;ve read yet. And, I&#039;m a Research Specialist &amp; Intelligence Analyst, so, History, and it&#039;s lessons for posterity is a subject with which I&#039;m VERY familiar, and Jeff has done a superlative job of detailing the major Historic precedents and their likely impact on future event sequences, &amp; the serious consequences of ignoring them. As well as the goals &amp; tactics of Russia &amp; China, and how they will seek to reach their &quot;LONG TERM&quot; goals. 

Bravo Jeff, bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably one of the most honest, and intelligent,(&#8221;he who fails to learn from History,is doomed to repeat it&#8217;s errors&#8221;), analysis that I&#8217;ve read yet. And, I&#8217;m a Research Specialist &amp; Intelligence Analyst, so, History, and it&#8217;s lessons for posterity is a subject with which I&#8217;m VERY familiar, and Jeff has done a superlative job of detailing the major Historic precedents and their likely impact on future event sequences, &amp; the serious consequences of ignoring them. As well as the goals &amp; tactics of Russia &amp; China, and how they will seek to reach their &#8220;LONG TERM&#8221; goals. </p>
<p>Bravo Jeff, bravo!</p>
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